“Love, Hate, & the Weather” is an immersive podcast showcasing stories from Paul Salopek’s walking partners, trusted guides local to each region of the 22,000 mile Out of Eden Walk. Turn up the sound to hear their stories about big issues like migration, climate change, and cultural traditions as well as the everyday topics that connect us all: conversations about the things we love, the things we hate, and what’s up with the weather.

This collection features conversations from Paul’s walks through China and India. In the China episode, Paul meets walking partner Zhang Mei, a Yunnan native studying ways to transform the ancient Tea Horse Trail through the heart of the Gaoligong mountains. In the India episode, National Geographic Explorer and environmental chronicler Arati Kumar-Rao joins Paul in the Punjab region of India just as he crosses the border from Pakistan.